Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) appeared with Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo on Sunday and said that “we’re trending perhaps towards another special counsel” to probe the Department of Justice.

“You know, Maria, this Democrat memo makes me smile. If it were up to Adam Schiff, if it were up to him it would have been a haiku, and not a memo because he did everything he could to keep us from finding out any of the information that was in either one of those memos,” the outgoing Republican said.

“So Congress has proven itself incapable of investigating this FISA abuse. DOJ should not be looking into it. We need an independent arbiter that’s either the inspector general or special counsel.”

“Maria over the weekend, I’d counted up almost two dozen witnesses that the inspector general would not have access to, were he alone conducting this investigation, so I think we’re trending perhaps towards another special counsel because of this unique fact pattern and the fact that there are witnesses outside the reach of the inspector general.”

That’s when Maria brought up the prospect of a second special counsel: Bartiromo asked, “So we should have then you believe another special counsel to investigate these matters? How does one investigate itself frankly?”


“Well you don’t. I wish that I had been able to grade my own papers in college and law school, but I was not able to. I would have done better first of all, but–we don’t put family members on the jury. We don’t put friends on the jury,” Gowdy responded.

“You need an independent arbiter, and the Department of Justice cannot investigate itself. Horowitz is a fair guy, but when there are two dozen witnesses that have left the department or worked for another agency, someone else has to do it and I am reluctant to call for special counsel, but I think it may be unavoidable in this fact pattern.”